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#1 ska

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Scris 31 mai 2008 - 11:24

din lipsa unui astfel de topic am zis sa facem unul sa fie.
daca mai este ( eu nu l-am gasit ) alipiti-l.

Imagine amplasata

AUDI Q7 4,2 TDI Quattro
MERCEDES GL 420 CDI 4matic
RANGE ROVER TDV8 3,6
TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 4,5 D4-D

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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 11:37

Vezi postareaska, la May 31 2008, 09:24 AM, a spus:

din lipsa unui astfel de topic am zis sa facem unul sa fie.
daca mai este ( eu nu l-am gasit ) alipiti-l.

Imagine amplasata

AUDI Q7 4,2 TDI Quattro
MERCEDES GL 420 CDI 4matic
RANGE ROVER TDV8 3,6
TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 4,5 D4-D

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vergleich-v...gen_706619.html


Pai e clar, Toyota de departe, ca doar nu-ti cumperi sufragerie pe roti cu care sa alergi pe autostrada.... o masina de genul acesta trebuie obligatoriu sa fie beton la off-road.

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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 12:37

depinde la ce folosesti masina.
cum la noi iti iei SUV nu ca sa iesi cu el pe coclauri...oricum, impresionant motorul de pe Audi.
Daca te trezesti dimineata si nu vezi soarele, inseamna ca esti mort sau esti soarele.

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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 01:28

eu as merge pe ML 420 CDI.
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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 02:09

strict dintre acestea eu as lua Range Rover TDV8 sau daca vreau si am nevoie de 7 locuri, Mercedes GL420 CDI 4Matic.

Altminteri, as mai lua in considerare Range Rover Sport TDV8 sau Mercedes ML420 CDI 4Matic
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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 03:09

RR TDV8 are performante destul de slabe fata de concurenta din pacate...
dar ca masina e rupere :angry:
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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 04:53

las ca se poate resofta si urca la peste 300 CP....
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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 06:37

asa toate se pot resofta. acum e cam aiurea sa vrei si off-road pe bune si sa fie masina de curse.
tu nebuno tu, zapacito, te sparg, te-ndoi ... m-am sucit ... si tot sugi si tot bagi si tot sugi ... daca nu e tare, cred ca o frec degeaba ... de meserie sunt frumoasa. si sunt modesta, dar vreau sa se stie.
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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 07:29

Offroad Toyota LC sau Mercedes G. Poate si Toyota FJ
La suvuri concurenta e mare dar nu are rost comparatia c cele mai de sus.
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Scris 16 iunie 2008 - 10:52

acum depinde ce inseamna off-road, pt ca ideala e o masina dedicata acestui sport, cu modificarile de rigoare. eu as paria clar pe un land-rover.
tu nebuno tu, zapacito, te sparg, te-ndoi ... m-am sucit ... si tot sugi si tot bagi si tot sugi ... daca nu e tare, cred ca o frec degeaba ... de meserie sunt frumoasa. si sunt modesta, dar vreau sa se stie.
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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 06:44

Probabil ca te referi la Defender. Si eu am o afectiune pt el... dar G-ul e mai rezistent.
Apoi.. cred ca mai poate fi interesant la acest capitol si ceva americane ca Jeep Rubicon sau Grand Cherokee SRT8 la capitolul SUV si restul

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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 08:44

dap, defenderul e baza.
tu nebuno tu, zapacito, te sparg, te-ndoi ... m-am sucit ... si tot sugi si tot bagi si tot sugi ... daca nu e tare, cred ca o frec degeaba ... de meserie sunt frumoasa. si sunt modesta, dar vreau sa se stie.
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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 09:07

Am auzit are reclama la radio pentru Q7. Si reclama incepea ceva de genul "Descopera orasul la bordul unui Q7". Desi numai de descoperit orasul nu e un Q7 (ori se bazeaza pe ideea ca stradutele laturalnice sunt pline de gropi, deci doar cu ceva de genul unui Q7 ai putea trece? :angry:) ... cei care au conceput reclama au gasit acest slogan numa bun ptr mentalitatea romanului. Evident ca in continuare reclama avea sugestii de genul "esti la inaltime", "impune respect de la bordul unui Q7" etc...
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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 09:07

Dpdv comportament off-road, defenderul e greu de egalat. Numai ca dpdv confort e sub orice critica. Nu vad pe absolut nimeni sa-l foloseasca in viata de zi cu zi decit daca traieste in jungla, la munte, sau e masochist...... :laugh:

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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 09:18

Vedeti ca e un articol in Quattroroute exact pe tema asta, mai putin Q7. Pe el nu l-au inclus in comparatie.

Eu nu am o afectiune deosebita pt acest gen de masini sau calatorii, dar binenteles ca mi-ar placea una. Dintre cele de mai sus, cred ca as alege Mercedes pur subiectiv.

De ce nu a fost inclus si Pajero in comparatie?
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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 09:39

Reclama aia la Q7 mi se pare ca spune totul despre clientul roman al acestei masini...
Pacat de masina ca cica ar fi buna; o sa-si strice si astia imaginea asa cum si-a stricat-o BMW ...
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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 10:40

BMW nu si-au stricat imaginea singuri, clientii le-au stricat-o....burtosi putin prea bronzati cu ghiuluri :laugh:
Audi desi are parte de d'astia, isi mai bat si singuri cuie cu reclame de genu asta, dar nu sunt singurii, majoritatea vin cu slogane de genu "stapaneste jungla urbana", o aberatie completa, care castiga in fata solutiilor adevarate (as face o analogie in politica, dar ma abtin :P)
Parerea mea e ca un SUV (ca offroaderu e clar :P) daca nu stie in offroad mai nimic nu isi are rostul, si sunt destule in situatia asta...cu parere de rau (fan BMW deh :D) pot spune ca aici intra si X3, oarecum si X5, dar acolo mai mere. Ideal ar fi un break + un offroader adevarat (ex: A6 Avant + Defender; si iesi tot la pret de Q7, daca nu mai ieftin)
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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 12:42

Daca iei cam aceeasi motorizare atat la A6 Avant, cat si la Q7, diferenta de pret e sub 5k euro. Iar cel mai ieftin Defender e in jur de 28k ... Asa ca nusht cum ai facut tu calculele, da nu prea iese cum zici tu :P
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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 12:48

dar care sunt criterile de comparatie?.. ca bag si Cadillac Escalade ca optiuni la SUV :P

PS.. scuze.. si Infiniti sau Lexus.

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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 01:38

de aia exista mai multe clase... off-roader, SUV, SAC. etc :P
fiecare cu "prioritatile" lui
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Scris 17 iunie 2008 - 08:33

@andrei da, acu m-am uitat si eu atent si ai dreptate....my bad :P
atunci Mondeo Turnier + Defender :P
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Scris 13 august 2008 - 02:42

http://www.autozeitu...?render=0140118

Imagine amplasata

BMW X3 3.0si
Mercedes GLK 350

The first meeting between Mercedes GLK 350 and BMW X3 3.0si decides the Swabian for itself. That is primarily because of its equipment with optional sport package, designed for driving dynamics. However also the X3 with surcharge-requiring sport chassis orders leaves itself. A further meeting with same equipment becomes very exciting from there. At the comfort strengths of the GLK there is however nothing to shake, here sets it the yardstick.
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Scris 13 august 2008 - 10:06

Vezi postareaandrei041, la Jun 17 2008, 12:42 PM, a spus:

Daca iei cam aceeasi motorizare atat la A6 Avant, cat si la Q7, diferenta de pret e sub 5k euro. Iar cel mai ieftin Defender e in jur de 28k ... Asa ca nusht cum ai facut tu calculele, da nu prea iese cum zici tu :D

pai nu lua A6 Avant tot cu 3.0 TDI quattro ci il lua cu 2.0 TDI si Defenderu' era SH :D
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Scris 20 august 2008 - 12:14

Imagine amplasata

BMW X6 xDrive50i Vs Porsche Cayenne GTS at Nurburgring
Who wins the bragging right?

Not too long a go BMW threw the gauntlet down to the world's media when they “accidentally” leaked a document which compared the BMW X6 xDrive50i to the Porsche Cayenne GTS. Fortunately German magazine Autobild duly obliged and now we can see how the two powerhouses compared to each other at the famed Nurburgring track.

Starting with the official statistics of the model, we can see that the slightly lighter X6 has full acceleration bragging rights with a 0-60mph time of just 5.3 seconds, a full 0.8 seconds faster than the Cayenne GTS, it also boasts lower CO2 emissions. However it does fall down on the all important fuel consumption figure with it's counterpart's 15.54 miles per gallon – 14% lower than the X6.

When taking these expensively assembled vehicles to the racetrack though, these basic figures can sometimes by irrelevant, something Autobild was looking to find out. The magazine did a number of tests at the ring comparing best laps, acceleration, top-speed and braking, but who came out on top?

Braking showed very little to differentiate the models with a braking distance from 100km/h to 0 of 37.4 meters for the Cayenne GTS and just 30cm longer for the X6. The top speed tests saw the Porsche Cayenne GTS taking a decisive lead with a top speed of 263km/h, but the X6 had it's on board speed limiter denying it from going faster than 252km/h. As you would expect the X6 brought back on level terms in the acceleration tests going from 0-100km/h in 5.7 seconds with the Cayenne GTS lagging a whole second further behind.

Pretty much neck and neck now, all is left now is a showdown on the all important lap times around the Ring.

We can tell you the BMW X6 xDrive50i put in a best lap of 8min 54.4 seconds, but the Cayenne GTS was left crawling behind beyond the 9 minute barrier and more than 7 seconds a drift with a time of 9 mins 1.9 seconds.

The test certainly proves the BMW has come out on top on this one and it's lower price makes it an altogether better or more appealing buy.
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Scris 21 august 2008 - 01:08

asta e un test cam contra naturii... ca sa zic asa.... ca si cum am lua hot hatch-uri sa vedem cum se comporta in off-road usor....
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